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Singapore, not China, is the world's execution cap « Thread Started on May 2, 2008, 2:11am »
Singapore, not China, is the world's execution capital
Jane Bywaters of Amnesty International connects the coming Beijing Olympics with her speculation of how many people may be executed by the Chinese judicial system during this period (Death toll during Olympics, H&H letters April 24).
We seem to have completely forgotten the UK athletes going out there to compete for gold, silver and bronze. They appear to have disappeared into a propagandised haze.
I am myself against the death penalty though some people no doubt deserve it, but the innocent have to be protected long enough to defend themselves against a horrendous sentence.
It was interesting to look at Tony Wheeler's Blog Online (Lonely Planet.com). Judge for yourself what country executes the most people yet is held up as a hard-working, clean and orderly city-state:
USA: (300 million people) 60 executions per year, or 20 per 100 million
Vietnam: (80 million people) 60 executions per year (75 per 100 million people).
Iran: (70 million people) 160 executions per year (230 per 100 million people).
China: (1.3 billion people) 3,500 executions per year (270 per 100 million).
Singapore: (4 million people) 30 executions per year (750 per 100 million).
And don't forget those who die in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of the occupying forces without charge or trial.
Tying in the Olympics with China's own personal problems is possibly setting a precedent. If so then the UK may face a lot of protest during its 2012 Olympic Games from various quarters.
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Re: Singapore, not China, is the world's execution « Reply #1 on May 2, 2008, 8:11am »
I should think Saudi Arabia would be right up there with Singapore.
I do take exception to the comment "And don't forget those who die in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of the occupying forces without charge or trial."
Before the "occupying forces" liberated Afghanistan, I imagine it would have been preferable to be a stray dog than a woman in that country. Stray dogs received far more respect. I am also inclined to point out that far more people died in Afghanistan -- without charge or trial -- at the hands of the Taliban. As to Iraq -- given the number of mass graves that the so-called "occupying forces" came upon, I suspect that the Iraqis were far worse off before. Moreover, it isn't the "occupying forces" who are killing all the civilians, it seems to be the Iraqis doing it to one another. I don't have a quarrel with the entry of western forces into Iraq -- we proved the need to be there the very first mass grave we came upon. Where we may be making a mistake, however, is in our attempt to impose American-style democracy upon a people who have no history of it, no understanding of how it works and -- most importantly -- no desire for it. It may be better to leave them to find their own way. Sometimes it takes a revolution for a country to find itself (America during the War between the States; the French Revolution; the Russian Revolution; the Spanish Civil War; even the Brits during the Interregnum under Cromwell). To name but a few. Nothing new there ....
Re: Singapore, not China, is the world's execution « Reply #2 on Aug 12, 2008, 8:28pm »
What IS a revolution? The American Revolution was actually not one at all; the French Revolution went backwards after the fall of Robespierre; the Russian Revolution became one of the worst tyrannies in history; the Spanish Civil War was a COUNTER revolution.